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	<title>Comments on: Domain Renewal Group. Yuck.</title>
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	<description>wetsuit. flippers. rake. chase</description>
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		<title>By: Jane</title>
		<link>http://janecopland.co.uk/2009/11/domain-renewal-group/#comment-718</link>
		<dc:creator>Jane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Aug 2010 15:09:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Chewi,

Pretty awful, huh? I don&#039;t have any advice about getting the money back, although there are a fair few good attorneys out there who specialise in Internet law. Irony being, you&#039;ll pay more than the initial loss, no matter what the outcome, I guess.

I&#039;m pleased by how many people come to this post after searching for the company&#039;s name, as I (and others who&#039;ve written about them) are hopefully responsible for many more people not being scammed out of their money.

Good luck with everything :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Chewi,</p>
<p>Pretty awful, huh? I don&#8217;t have any advice about getting the money back, although there are a fair few good attorneys out there who specialise in Internet law. Irony being, you&#8217;ll pay more than the initial loss, no matter what the outcome, I guess.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m pleased by how many people come to this post after searching for the company&#8217;s name, as I (and others who&#8217;ve written about them) are hopefully responsible for many more people not being scammed out of their money.</p>
<p>Good luck with everything <img src='http://janecopland.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Chewi</title>
		<link>http://janecopland.co.uk/2009/11/domain-renewal-group/#comment-717</link>
		<dc:creator>Chewi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Aug 2010 13:58:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi all, This is a global problem (I am in Australia)... I have been receiving these letters for the past 12months but have always paid with my registrar...

My cousin recently paid one of these and I am attempting to re-coup the costs on his behalf. Domain Registration of America have taken the money and not done anything about his domain... I have attempted requesting a refund but this is fallen on deaf ears.

I will not stop until I have either re-coup the money or discredited them sufficiently to appease my discussed. They practice deception and theft and I am most disturbed that this can occur on a worldwide level.

If anyone has any advise on how to tackle them please advise...

Cheers,

Chewi</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi all, This is a global problem (I am in Australia)&#8230; I have been receiving these letters for the past 12months but have always paid with my registrar&#8230;</p>
<p>My cousin recently paid one of these and I am attempting to re-coup the costs on his behalf. Domain Registration of America have taken the money and not done anything about his domain&#8230; I have attempted requesting a refund but this is fallen on deaf ears.</p>
<p>I will not stop until I have either re-coup the money or discredited them sufficiently to appease my discussed. They practice deception and theft and I am most disturbed that this can occur on a worldwide level.</p>
<p>If anyone has any advise on how to tackle them please advise&#8230;</p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>Chewi</p>
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		<title>By: Jess</title>
		<link>http://janecopland.co.uk/2009/11/domain-renewal-group/#comment-549</link>
		<dc:creator>Jess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Mar 2010 00:46:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In Canada we have the same company (I&#039;d imagine?), but same scam!  
Domain Registry of Canada, same looking letters even and have had clients actually pay the money and had to tell them they&#039;ve been scammed. 
We have saved a few but it&#039;s taken a few as well, those letters look real to clients who just don&#039;t know!
http://www.treefrog.ca/Domain-Registry-Of-Canada</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Canada we have the same company (I&#8217;d imagine?), but same scam!<br />
Domain Registry of Canada, same looking letters even and have had clients actually pay the money and had to tell them they&#8217;ve been scammed.<br />
We have saved a few but it&#8217;s taken a few as well, those letters look real to clients who just don&#8217;t know!<br />
<a href="http://www.treefrog.ca/Domain-Registry-Of-Canada" rel="nofollow">http://www.treefrog.ca/Domain-Registry-Of-Canada</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jane</title>
		<link>http://janecopland.co.uk/2009/11/domain-renewal-group/#comment-544</link>
		<dc:creator>Jane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Mar 2010 15:12:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice idea on both counts, mate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice idea on both counts, mate.</p>
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		<title>By: Damn-Deal-Done</title>
		<link>http://janecopland.co.uk/2009/11/domain-renewal-group/#comment-543</link>
		<dc:creator>Damn-Deal-Done</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Mar 2010 13:46:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wrote fuck you in large letters and returned it in the return addressed envelope without a stamp.

I also contacted Mail Boxes Etc to ask them what they plan to do about a scam operation using their mail boxes.

Contact them here and let them know. http://www.mbe.co.uk/about_us.aspx</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wrote fuck you in large letters and returned it in the return addressed envelope without a stamp.</p>
<p>I also contacted Mail Boxes Etc to ask them what they plan to do about a scam operation using their mail boxes.</p>
<p>Contact them here and let them know. <a href="http://www.mbe.co.uk/about_us.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://www.mbe.co.uk/about_us.aspx</a></p>
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		<title>By: Dan Pyrex</title>
		<link>http://janecopland.co.uk/2009/11/domain-renewal-group/#comment-529</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Pyrex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 17:10:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jane
I only posted to push the ranking up a bit!

Last post was still in 2009, but most of the first page of Google results is other blogs or boards, all saying the same thing. Others have called it a SERP fail, but the point of sending this scam out by post is to exploit those who don&#039;t know (or care) what a SERP is.

I won&#039;t post again until I get another letter from them. I look after a lot of domains, and none of them use the word Pyrex (just incase DRG are reading this and getting ready to whitewash their snail mail list).

They are far from the first shower to try stuff like this: the first scammers started posting out fake invoices not long after Network Solutions first started charging money for .com/.net/.org domain registrations in the mid 1990s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jane<br />
I only posted to push the ranking up a bit!</p>
<p>Last post was still in 2009, but most of the first page of Google results is other blogs or boards, all saying the same thing. Others have called it a SERP fail, but the point of sending this scam out by post is to exploit those who don&#8217;t know (or care) what a SERP is.</p>
<p>I won&#8217;t post again until I get another letter from them. I look after a lot of domains, and none of them use the word Pyrex (just incase DRG are reading this and getting ready to whitewash their snail mail list).</p>
<p>They are far from the first shower to try stuff like this: the first scammers started posting out fake invoices not long after Network Solutions first started charging money for .com/.net/.org domain registrations in the mid 1990s.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Pyrex</title>
		<link>http://janecopland.co.uk/2009/11/domain-renewal-group/#comment-528</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Pyrex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 16:48:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Forgot to say: the envelope has no address printed on the outside, but it&#039;s visible on the pre-printed reply envelope through the outer envelope (which I have not yet opened):

56 Gloucester Road, Suite 526
London, England
SW7 4UB

I could open it, fill it in with something to waste their time, and post it to them (it has no freepost - they expect anyone dumb enough to fall for this slamming to also pay postage), or I could just write Return To Sender on it.

Going by some other blog comments, loading it up with other junk mail and sending it to them unpaid is a better deterrent, as they have to pay the return postage. And anyway, I am a fully paid up (and card carrying) member of The Lumber Cartel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Forgot to say: the envelope has no address printed on the outside, but it&#8217;s visible on the pre-printed reply envelope through the outer envelope (which I have not yet opened):</p>
<p>56 Gloucester Road, Suite 526<br />
London, England<br />
SW7 4UB</p>
<p>I could open it, fill it in with something to waste their time, and post it to them (it has no freepost &#8211; they expect anyone dumb enough to fall for this slamming to also pay postage), or I could just write Return To Sender on it.</p>
<p>Going by some other blog comments, loading it up with other junk mail and sending it to them unpaid is a better deterrent, as they have to pay the return postage. And anyway, I am a fully paid up (and card carrying) member of The Lumber Cartel.</p>
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		<title>By: Jane</title>
		<link>http://janecopland.co.uk/2009/11/domain-renewal-group/#comment-527</link>
		<dc:creator>Jane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 16:44:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Dan

It&#039;s got to be working for them, and their US parent / partner. I receive a lot of traffic from search engines for people who&#039;ve searched for Domain Renewal Group; the post is ranking fairly well for it.

I can only hope that I&#039;ve deterred quite a few people from giving these creeps money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Dan</p>
<p>It&#8217;s got to be working for them, and their US parent / partner. I receive a lot of traffic from search engines for people who&#8217;ve searched for Domain Renewal Group; the post is ranking fairly well for it.</p>
<p>I can only hope that I&#8217;ve deterred quite a few people from giving these creeps money.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Pyrex</title>
		<link>http://janecopland.co.uk/2009/11/domain-renewal-group/#comment-526</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Pyrex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 16:37:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They are also sending letters out to domain holders in Ireland.
White windowed envelope, postmark says:

U.S. Postage
Paid
JHI - 9014
Jamaica, NY</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They are also sending letters out to domain holders in Ireland.<br />
White windowed envelope, postmark says:</p>
<p>U.S. Postage<br />
Paid<br />
JHI &#8211; 9014<br />
Jamaica, NY</p>
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		<title>By: Kalena</title>
		<link>http://janecopland.co.uk/2009/11/domain-renewal-group/#comment-487</link>
		<dc:creator>Kalena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 03:03:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well well. Received one of these myself today from same address as the old DROA in Melbourne. So looks like DROA have had to rename themselves Domain Renewal Group. Same Scam Different Day. Let&#039;s see how long it takes us to Googlebomb *Domain Renewal Group* :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well well. Received one of these myself today from same address as the old DROA in Melbourne. So looks like DROA have had to rename themselves Domain Renewal Group. Same Scam Different Day. Let&#8217;s see how long it takes us to Googlebomb *Domain Renewal Group* <img src='http://janecopland.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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